This is a Barn Find to beat all Barn Finds!

The GT-E was only available for a few brief months in 1968. Total production would not have kept the assembly line busy for more than a half day. If you know anything about a GT-E, it is important, and this is the place to share it. The GT-E registry is maintained by Jim Pinkerton.
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Re: This is a Barn Find to beat all Barn Finds!

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Post by BOSSGTE » 07 Mar 2018, 14:32

Cougar1 wrote:
07 Mar 2018, 12:36
BossGTE -- You have some incorrect in your posting in this thread. First of all I took Cougar 1 on the tour of several 50th Anniversary shows last year because we enjoy sharing the car with the public, particularly the Cougar community. We've been fortunate to have people from every state and province in Canada, as well as from 13 other foreign countries come here to see Cougar 1. At none of the shows was there a for sale sign in Cougar 1. We did have a small tri-fold brochure printed with information on the car, a reference to the Cougar-1.com website, and on the back cover $330K. Most people are unaware that we turned down two offers to sell the car for that price, because in our view the potential buyers were in it for exactly what you mean when you say "flip it." Keeping the car since '94 until now does not meet any known definition of flipping the car. Then you say I "inherited" the 428 CJ, 4 speed GT-E? Where did you come up with that hairbrained notion? Oh, and buy the way I owned that GT-E for 12 years; again, hardly what I'd call flipping it.
"Then you say I "inherited" the 428 CJ, 4 speed GT-E? Where did you come up with that hairbrained notion?"

Cougar1: I got the "hairbrained notion" when I misunderstood "inherited" it in this YouTube video at 4:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVc0tuHTc90 Sorry...
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Re: This is a Barn Find to beat all Barn Finds!

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Post by Don Rush » 07 Mar 2018, 14:48

Jim inherited that 428 CJ / 4spd / GTE? Damn flipper... He tried to soak me for $35k for that car in the summer of 2001! Glad I passed on it.

http://owlshead.org/auctions/detail/196 ... j.-4-speed

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Post by R Code » 07 Mar 2018, 15:49

:shifty:

::Makes ready the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch::
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Post by Huzer21 » 07 Mar 2018, 15:57

Interesting read, including the thread derailment, I guess. I won't even pretend that I'm a grand Cougar afficianado, I fell into my basic little Cougar at a decent price for a car that will perpetually need work. I'm glad there are others out there with the ability and means to protect the rare beasts that do still exist. Kudos to them, and whatever effort they put in to acquire them. Thanks for sharing the story behind this one.

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Post by Cougar1 » 07 Mar 2018, 16:46

BossGTE -- You've misunderstood the Don Rush video. We inherited a '68 Standard 302 regular ordinary Cougar from my wife's father, the original buyer, and restored it back in the early 90's. I purchased the 4 speed GT-E from George Huisman in Walled Lake, MI.
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Post by Cougar1 » 07 Mar 2018, 17:13

Don Rush -- You are sounding more like a s***t disturber every minute. It wouldn't be too bad but some people might actually believe what you are saying :lol:
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Post by Don Rush » 07 Mar 2018, 17:27

Cougar1 wrote:
07 Mar 2018, 17:13
Don Rush -- You are sounding more like a s***t disturber every minute. It wouldn't be too bad but some people might actually believe what you are saying :lol:
Is not that the goal of a disturber? BTW, the video he is referring to was the Dennis Gauge video and I see where one could get confused about which Cougar you were referring to when you mentioned the nine you owned up to that point.

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Post by d-vitell » 07 Mar 2018, 19:36

I'm fairly new to the Cougar Community having bought my first and only classic Cougar that I had been looking for through Don Rush on eBay back in November of 2013 as he was selling a 1970 XR7 convertible for a friend of his. I've just been laying low and taking in all the comments over the last few days from many on this Community with a lot more knowledge, expertise and experience than I believe I'll ever have and there's not much more to be said that already hasn't been. However I'd like to reiterate many of the statements in support of Mr. Pinkerton. I met Jim and Elaine for the first time at the 50th anniversary festivities in Dearborn in June 2017 and I can say that one of the purposes of my trip was to meet people, such as them (too numerous to list all the names I was hoping to meet), with the wealth of knowledge they possess that I might learn more about the hobby and Cougars in general, which in my opinion are one of the most beautiful cars ever crafted.

The Pinkertons were nothing short of courteous, unselfish, helpful in answering questions (some maybe stupid) and generous with their time especially with someone like me who they didn't even know from a hole in the ground.

Flipping to me is someone who buys an item, may or may not fix it up "properly" if required and then sells it (hopefully for a profit) promptly after it's completed. I recall Joe Valente selling his '70 SCJ at Barrett Jackson in 2013 and then I noticed it was for sale again less than 2 years later for $75K more than the purchase price. And hey.....everything is for sale for a price. Not sure if he got it but that to me is a flipping example. Sooooo........if someone wants to offer me $60K for my XR7 vert, I'm all ears! LOL

Also, it sure seemed to me that the Robie's wanted the car to go to someone who is going to take care of the car properly and didn't want a circus over the sale of it either. To me Jim Pinkerton is the ONLY choice for this particular car. As has been mentioned, he bought Cougar 1 back in 1994 and if it weren't for Jim and Elaine, who knows where that car would be today and what shape it'd be in. Hey sometimes you just don't have a choice, be it because of auction or time constraints or whatever, you may not have any control who gets your prized possession. However, if you have any command of what happens to your personal belonging you should have the privilege to sell to whoever you want even if someone else thinks the price wasn't right one way or the other!

This was going to be a short post so sorry for its length but I just didn't want anyone trouncing the very people who keep the lights on for all of us in the Cougar Community! You know who you are!
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Post by cobrasc427 » 07 Mar 2018, 21:48

I have found this thread to be very informative, and I understand the views of all of the posters, and why they have their views.
I will defer from giving my views on the subject, other than to exclaim WOW!

According to BOSSGTE, and from part 2 of the video, (guess I missed that part of the dialog), there are ONLY known to be 6 GT-E's with their original 427 engine !

I guess I need to pay more attention to things, or perhaps I need to relish in my great fortune. Since my GT-E has it's original born with 427 engine, AND original C-6, AND original rear end. All numbers matching with their tags. Original and complete drive line, of the 6, how many can say that?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Post by DieselD » 07 Mar 2018, 22:59

Kudos to everyone keeping this a civil discussion with the expection of one! That speaks to to maturity of everyone that’s part of this community, I can’t say a topic like this would go so well on some other forums!

I can’t say much since I’m pretty new around here but for the short time I have been I can say most everyone here seems to be very stand up guys. I hope in the future I can be more involved in the community and meet some of you guys. Any way in reference to the topic at hand I don’t feel these guys are car flippers which in my opinion they would need to be turning round and selling it much faster then years later. Most guys flipping cars buy as cheap as they slap em together and turn for a quick profit. It’s all about making it look good on the outside for the next prospective buyer and that’s not what I see these guys doing. They care about the history and legacy of the car more then simply flipping for a profit. But hey that’s just my take on it.
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