1970 351c 4v Headers

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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by Leroy R » 03 Mar 2018, 14:54

I am not sure what headers the shop wound up putting on mine, but I didn't need the drop bracket for the steering ram cylinder to clear them.

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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by 1969XR7Vert » 03 Mar 2018, 16:08

Probably shorties.
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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by canted 393 » 03 Mar 2018, 16:41

Hooker is not the same company it was 5 to 10 years ago. Some of my old hookers fit great port match was good but the set I ordered this past fall was .4 inches shorter than a 4v port and taller than a 2v port. They would work on a 2v head, but the part number was for a 4V and they were made in china. In my opinion I would rather spend my money with a guy who only makes headers for ford motors and built in the US. Stan at Ford powertrain knows his stuff and stands behind it.

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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by Leroy R » 03 Mar 2018, 16:46

Possibly, I haven't really looked that close at them. I'll see if I can get a good angle to take a picture when I get home from work tonight. It's tight in there. I got a wrench wedged between the shock tower and the header on the drivers side and had a heck of a time getting it loose and out.

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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by 1969XR7Vert » 04 Mar 2018, 07:42

Leroy R wrote:
03 Mar 2018, 16:46
Possibly, I haven't really looked that close at them. I'll see if I can get a good angle to take a picture when I get home from work tonight. It's tight in there. I got a wrench wedged between the shock tower and the header on the drivers side and had a heck of a time getting it loose and out.
This is easy to tell, look under the car. If you have "regular" headers, there will be collectors. If you have them, you will see four pipes coming down from the engine going into one (usually 3") pipe (the collector) which then will have a reducer to connect to the rest of the exhaust.
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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by Leroy R » 05 Mar 2018, 03:40

Here is the best photo I could get of the headers looking down between the valve cover and master cylinder


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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by R.B.Phillips » 05 Mar 2018, 04:21

1969XR7Vert wrote:
03 Mar 2018, 13:29
P.S. Buy the bulletproof drop bracket from WCCC. Spendy but no chance of ripping the nutserts out of the frame rail.
Which I did on a non-Cougar 351C in spring 1973.....

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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by 1969XR7Vert » 06 Mar 2018, 07:42

Leroy R wrote:
05 Mar 2018, 03:40
Here is the best photo I could get of the headers looking down between the valve cover and master cylinder

Interesting. Those are "regular" headers. Have not heard of any of that style that do not require a drop bracket. Any idea of who makes them?
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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by Leroy R » 06 Mar 2018, 10:15

I looked at the mechanics invoice and it just says they got them from Summit Racing. It doesn't specify the brand or model number.
Looks like they could be these
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pte- ... del/cougar
or these
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dou- ... del/cougar

They both say they need the bracket. I remember the mechanic telling me they had the bracket, but didn't install it because they didn't need to. I'll see if I can crawl under there today and get a picture from the bottom of the bracket.

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Re: 1970 351c 4v Headers

Post by Leroy R » 06 Mar 2018, 11:06

Looking at these photos I just took, it looks like maybe the only reason they didn't need the drop bracket is because the cylinder is missing its boot.



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