68 standard, restromod driver?

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68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by DieselD » 26 Jun 2017, 23:33

So I posted in the show us your cougar thread but I would also like to start a build thread if I may. I know I enjoy looking at other cougar projects so I fiqured I could share mine.

My plans are not a restoration but rather a solid driver with reasonable upgrades. Not sure if there is an accepted term for this sort of build but I wouldn't title it restoration by any stretch of the word. To me a restoration is a full nut and bolt top to bottom rework better then new. As cool as these are I would be fearful to actually drive and enjoy it as much as I want to. Not to mention my wallet can't handle a full restoration. I guess you could call it a restromod but then again I am not planning on using some big buck suspension and drivetrain, so maybe hotrod? I do however want to go through the entire car and rebuild,refinish, upgrade and not be afraid of not being "concourse correct". I want to make changes and upgrades that make sense, personalize the car and make it a better driver. I would love to take a cross country trip like those that recently drove out to Dearborn for the 50th!

Anyway from what I'm working with.
68 standard, 302, 2v, 3speed, decor interior, sea foam green exterior, ivy gold interior

Previous owner had swapped over a intake, msd distributor, ignition box, all the front and rear suspension has been gone through and replaced, front Granada disc swap, 3speed rebuilt, diff rebuilt and regeared to 3.55 and a few other small things.


Bringing it home, front fenders, bumpers and grill where installed just to haul it home
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Getting 20years of parked fuel out of the carb
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I needed to know if the motor ran since it was parked and not started for an estimated 15years or so. Got all the fluids replaced, cleaned the carb, stuck the pedals back in and put the correct master cylinder and booster in it, Tossed the seat in with one bolt and took it around the block! Found out later the rear wheels where finger tight, but it was a great drive! The motor will eventually come out for a rebuild, maybe build a stroker? T5 swap? But for now I will work on getting it mechanically sound and start what I can on body work. Hopefully there will be some life left in the original motor to get some drive time before having to yank the motor out of it.

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Got the front clip back off to clean and paint everything under the fenders, start reworking the headlights etc. lots of free cheap labor stuff to get done before spending any real cash on big things like paint. Im surprised how everything fit together for just being set on the car and not lined up one bit
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1968 Standard, 302 2v, 3 speed.

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Re: 68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by guitar74 » 27 Jun 2017, 09:48

You have the best of both worlds: A cool project car and a way to relieve your stress parked right next to it.

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Post by xr7g428 » 27 Jun 2017, 10:22

Cool project! I am looking forward to more. Are you going to do a 5 speed?
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Re: 68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by DieselD » 27 Jun 2017, 11:16

xr7g428 wrote:
27 Jun 2017, 10:22
Cool project! I am looking forward to more. Are you going to do a 5 speed?
Thats the plan, I do want to keep it a manual and not convert to an auto. Thinking T5 will be a good fit for the end use of the car, but then again depends a little on what I ultimately decide to run for an engine.
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Re: 68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by mo2872 » 27 Jun 2017, 12:42

DieselD wrote:
27 Jun 2017, 11:16

Thats the plan, I do want to keep it a manual and not convert to an auto. Thinking T5 will be a good fit for the end use of the car, but then again depends a little on what I ultimately decide to run for an engine.
Keep in mind, even the T5z spec are fairly limited on torque you can run through them. If you have any thoughts at all of upping the grunt, you may want to consider the TKO instead.

All you ever didn't know you wanted to know about the T5: http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technica ... istory.htm
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Re: 68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by CougarCJ » 27 Jun 2017, 13:21

I am using the T5Z 5 speed transmission too. The 1987-92 5.0 Mustang engines advertised 300 ft-lb of torque. Higher than what the net specs would be for my 1968 J code engine. I do not anticipate any issues, and not planning on spinning the rear tires, ... too much.
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Re: 68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by DieselD » 27 Jun 2017, 14:04

mo2872 wrote:
27 Jun 2017, 12:42
DieselD wrote:
27 Jun 2017, 11:16

Thats the plan, I do want to keep it a manual and not convert to an auto. Thinking T5 will be a good fit for the end use of the car, but then again depends a little on what I ultimately decide to run for an engine.
Keep in mind, even the T5z spec are fairly limited on torque you can run through them. If you have any thoughts at all of upping the grunt, you may want to consider the TKO instead.

All you ever didn't know you wanted to know about the T5: http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technica ... istory.htm
I was aware of the limitations of the T5 which is something I am considering. I believe they are rated around the 330fts mark which I think a mild build 302 could be under that but yeah the motor build will decide the transmission requirement. If going bigger numbers I need to consider a stouter option like the TKO as long as there is no cutting of the tunnel needed. According to MDL they will fit in the 68s so that could be a good option down the road. I also think driving habits play a big part in getting a T5 to live as well, however I have seen plenty of fox body guys flog the dog out of those cars ad somehow the t5 lives :geek:

So for now hopefully I can make the old girl run well enough on the stocker to get some enjoyment before tossing hundred dollar bills at a power train.
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Post by guitar74 » 29 Jun 2017, 19:02

I think that t5 oughtta hold up if you're not too hard in it with a mild small block. We used to brutalize the one in my buds 83 GT and it held up. The rear end on the other hand, didn't come close to holding up to the abuse.

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Re: 68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by Caleb » 29 Jun 2017, 19:20

Fox bodies bend the rules a little with the t5's torque rating because of how light they are. You can run a lot of power and get away with it in the t5 as long as you plan on spinning the tires. If you hook the power up to the ground that's when you have issues. I would probably go the tko route unless you are prepared to swap trannies

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Re: 68 standard, restromod driver?

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Post by DieselD » 02 Jul 2017, 18:31

I'll cross the t5 bridge when I'm at that point in the build. One thing for sure I want to do a 5spd swap for drivability but for now the 3 speed will stay until its roadable.

Been working on a couple small things, had a beat up headlight door that came with the car. Perfect to practice on before tearing down mine. I didn't spent a lot of time prepping but wanted to get an idea how it would look and in what order I need to do things. The silver and black on the bars can be tricky and I found out I will need to paint the bottom horizontal black first and tape that off before spraying the silver. If doing the black aftert he silver it's too much of a pain. I painted the bars ford agrent and it looks good against the satin black which is not sem trim black however I will use that for the ones going on the car. Almost wondering if I should just leave the bars painted? Gives a unique look rather then the original chrome. I did clean the paint from the 4bars on right to compare which in the picture does not show well.

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