The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by 1969XR7Vert » 03 Dec 2015, 14:16

Why didn't you put on the fender extensions before putting the fenders on?\

For WS adhesive removal I would suggest WD-40 and a lot of elbow grease.

Looks great (but you are WAY behind, get going man!).
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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by Blitz » 03 Dec 2015, 14:32

1969XR7Vert wrote:Why didn't you put on the fender extensions before putting the fenders on?
Ah, I was going to mention that. Good to make note of this for anyone reading: normally, the extensions should be put on the fenders first, then put the fenders on the car. They will be hard to install with the fenders on the car, although supposedly it's possible (haven't installed the front splash shields or vacuum tank yet).

Why didn't I put them on first? They haven't been painted yet. :wall:

I'll probably do a separate post on my paint / body woes that I've alluded to. It's part of what's been keeping me from moving forward. Hoping to remedy this situation in the near future.
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-1968 Mercury Cougar: original family owned, Polar White, 289-2V, auto, AC / "Snowball" view project thread
-1973 Opel Manta: 1.9L, 5-speed (restored)
-1991 Mazda Miata: fun driver
-1986 Volvo 240: dependable beater / "Goldilocks"
-1979 Volvo 245: magnificently ugly brown wagon

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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by badcatt » 03 Dec 2015, 14:36

Looking good Andrew. I hope the rest of your parts are done soon.
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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by 1969XR7Vert » 03 Dec 2015, 14:36

Wow, even WCCC folks ("Rush-ians", get it?! ;-) get stuck in body shop jail? It just ain't right I tell 'ya!
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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by Local Hero » 03 Dec 2015, 15:12

All the more reason to DIY!
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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by mo2872 » 03 Dec 2015, 15:18

Local Hero wrote:All the more reason to DIY!
+1 DIY paint and body.
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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by 70 Cougar » 03 Dec 2015, 20:42

Looks great Andrew and you're almost there!! For the removal of the weather strip adhesive I would suggest wax and grease removal.

Regarding the trunk lid, can you grind out a little material in the trunk lid hinge where it attaches to body of the car to suck the trunk lid down in that corner? My hood hinge on the passenger side was bottomed out with respect to adjustment and the hood was still a 1/4" to high above the fender and cowl and in order to suck it down a bit we grinded a sliver of material out of the hood hinge. Once the hood hinge is fastened down the bolt head covers up the bit of material grinded out and no one will ever notice.
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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by Mike_B_SVT » 04 Dec 2015, 00:28

Blitz wrote:Well I think I'm past due for a random update... most of these things happened months ago, I was just too lazy to post! Let's get up to speed now.
Great update, lots of cool pics and progress! Hopefully we'll see it on the road this summer!


...maybe I need to get my updates posted too >.>
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Re: The Snowball Saga - '68 Standard Revitalization Project

Post by cougar2 » 04 Dec 2015, 07:53

Looking mighty fine Andrew, Great job!!

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Paint & Body Woes

Post by Blitz » 04 Dec 2015, 16:32

Alright, let's see if I can outline what really happened with the bodywork & paint. The guy that did the work was known only as Jose, and he didn't speak English. He was an experienced body man looking for work, trying to make ends meet, and seemed like a nice enough, hard working guy. I'd had a chance to see what he could do, and he seemed to be quite skilled. There were a couple guys here that spoke Spanish, so at the time, I had interpreters and all was good. He was willing to work for way less than what a retail body shop would charge, and to me this is what made it possible to move forward. I couldn't afford anything more.

Sept. 2011 (wow) is when I dove in and started the roof replacement, which led to fixing the other rust and body damage on the car, which led to a decision of doing a full repaint. Jose did the work in the WCCC yard where I could check in on progress regularly, and he was doing a good job, as you can see in my early posts.
Late in the year (Nov) the car got moved off-site, because Jose had been allowed to use shop space by someone he knew. Here the floors were patched in the cabin and trunk. I went to check up on the car regularly, and progress looked good. Then the car came back to WCCC.
Finally, in May 2012, the car and most of the major panels had been prepped and were in primer. Jose was able to use another friend's shop to spray the body shell and the doors. I got the car back by the end of that month, and was stoked to see it in fresh paint.
Eventually I decided to go all-out, and pulled the engine. Around April 2013 I had Jose prep and paint the engine bay, and something went wrong with his mixture... the paint is still a little soft to this day and I can scratch it with a fingernail. But it looks good overall. In hindsight I probably could have gotten better results from rattle cans myself.
Keep in mind at this point, the fenders, hood, trunk lid, extensions, valences, etc had still not been painted. Something I would continually bug him about.
I don't know what happened in his personal life, but it seemed to be in turmoil. He started working at yet another shop in another part of town, and still had my parts with him. I kept showing up to bug him periodically, and he wanted me to buy more paint materials (I'm pretty sure he used supplies I had previously bought for other projects). Finally, in May 2014, when I was in France, Don sent me this picture:

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At last! The hood, trunk, and fenders were painted. Only 2 years after the body shell and doors had been painted, with a different batch of materials, in a different environment, with different equipment... see where this is going? So far, the pictures you've seen have been from far enough away to say, "hey cool, that looks good! Yay for progress!" Well, let me zoom in a little.

Hood closeup:

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Fender drips and cracks:

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Dust bubbles & orange peel on trunk:

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Other fender "texture"

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Hard to get a picture of, but this one kinda shows the waviness that's everywhere. Not the end of the world, just one more negative.

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Fender vs. door difference in finish:

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This one I think shows the difference in color the best. It's hard to capture, but if you look closely, it's there. Hood vs. cowl:

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Anyway, after this, I was hoping to get the rest of the little pieces finished in a timely manner - valences, stone guard, fender & quarter extensions, glove box door & ash tray door, trunk hinges and rods, So I could at least get the car together and try to color sand / buff out his paint job and make it look decent. After weeks / months of constantly checking in, hearing his false promises over and over, giving him the benefit of the doubt way too many times, I finally gave up. Give me back my stuff, I'll figure out something else.

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

Current plan? There's a good restoration shop up the road who seems open to the idea of finishing up the body & paint on my car, and I can partially pay for the work by doing some photo / video stuff for their business. They want to get the panels aligned better, prep the unpainted parts, block sand the entire car to smooth out the waviness / imperfections, and spray fresh color and clear. This is the only way it'll be "right," but painting the entire car twice is mind-blowingly frustrating. Of course it will just be the outer surfaces, but still...

So there ya go. I think this whole fiasco is what's really slowed me down from putting the car together. Don't get me wrong, I've been lazy at times, and distracted by other things, but I didn't feel like I could "finish" the car when the paint work wasn't satisfactory.
-Andrew Chenovick
Photo/Video guy for WEST COAST CLASSIC COUGAR, INC.
Side Gig: FLYING A PHOTOGRAPHY


RIDES:
-1968 Mercury Cougar: original family owned, Polar White, 289-2V, auto, AC / "Snowball" view project thread
-1973 Opel Manta: 1.9L, 5-speed (restored)
-1991 Mazda Miata: fun driver
-1986 Volvo 240: dependable beater / "Goldilocks"
-1979 Volvo 245: magnificently ugly brown wagon

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