Can I paint my wheels and make em look like this?

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Can I paint my wheels and make em look like this?

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Post by tmh » 30 Apr 2012, 08:22

Anodizing or powder coating both have the same drawbacks, price and complexity. Anodizing can't be done with a sharp line like these rims will have, I'm nearly positive of that. I'm open to correction but am pretty sure even powder coating can't. This same subject came up when I was designing my last instrument, an all-aluminum baritone guitar, and my buddy who makes em told me you don't get sharp, clear lines of on/off sorta nature with anodizing or powder coating, if I remember correctly, that there would be bleed. That's where paint seems the way to go. Plus the cost and complexity.

Ultimately I have rims that I've never been happy with, and am looking to make them look much better to myself, without spending hardly any $ at all. This is a purely cosmetic endeavor, and I am the type of person who just cannot justify putting anything more than a couple meals worth of cash into something purely cosmetic when there are mechanical/performance issues to tend to.
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Post by mo2872 » 30 Apr 2012, 08:28

Bummer. Pity, as that would have looked way cool.
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Post by tmh » 30 Apr 2012, 08:33

Don't sweat it T, it's gonna look awesome with paint, too! Worst case scenario, the paint looks bad (but almost certainly better than it looks now, to me anyway, never liked the giant bare aluminum areas) and I live with it for a year or two until all the important stuff is squared away first.

But it's gonna look really good with paint, I just know it. Maybe only from far away, but it'll look good!! XD
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Post by Bricklyn » 30 Apr 2012, 08:45

tmh wrote:Don't sweat it T, it's gonna look awesome with paint, too! Worst case scenario, the paint looks bad (but almost certainly better than it looks now, to me anyway, never liked the giant bare aluminum areas) and I live with it for a year or two until all the important stuff is squared away first.

But it's gonna look really good with paint, I just know it. Maybe only from far away, but it'll look good!! XD
And thats what really counts now doesnt it.. :beerchug:
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Post by mo2872 » 30 Apr 2012, 08:52

tmh wrote:Don't sweat it T, it's gonna look awesome with paint, too! Worst case scenario, the paint looks bad (but almost certainly better than it looks now, to me anyway, never liked the giant bare aluminum areas) and I live with it for a year or two until all the important stuff is squared away first.

But it's gonna look really good with paint, I just know it. Maybe only from far away, but it'll look good!! XD

That's the way I looked at it before shooting my car.....best case, it turns out good.....worst case, I get to strip it again!

I look forward to seeing your results!
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Post by tmh » 02 May 2012, 12:17

Went to NAPA today and picked up a rattle can of etching primer and a rattle can of satin black paint that is specifically billed as being for doing wheels. Total cost $17.

I cut open an empty A&W can (my go-to beverage), hit a small section of the interior with a scotchbrite pad, and sprayed it with 2 coats of the primer. In about 15 mins I'll go back (cause it will have been a half hour) and hit it again with the scotchbrite and then go for a test run of the actual paint. I wanna make sure it doesn't look too glossy. And once it dries, I'm gonna take the can and rake it around on a pile of rocks in my back yard and see how it fares.

If all that goes well, then I'll get to taking off the wheels and scotchin' em up and masking em tonight, probably start painting tomorrow maybe? They just updated our forecast, now calls for t-storms from today until Monday. So I'll be looking for periods where the humidity is below 60% to do the painting, since that's what it calls for on the can.
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Post by Local Hero » 02 May 2012, 13:19

Yeah humidity is a killer on paint. Any time I've tried painting anything with a rattle can when it was humid, it would come out looking satin whether I wanted it to or not.
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Post by tmh » 02 May 2012, 21:46

So here are the results of today's test.

Primed and painted this soda can, dried for a few hours. Instructions say it's dry in one hour and okay to handle after 3. And it takes a week to cure.

Then I put it on the ground and whipped a handful of rocks at it as hard as I could, which didn't chip the paint so much as it made holes in the can. Then I took it and put it face down on a bed of rocks and pushed down hard and scraped it back and forth.

Here's what I got.

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I think it'll be fine. Look really nice, for a while anyway. Then it'll get scratched up and start to look ratty, which I can deal with. Maybe a year or two from now I'll get the rims powder coated. My buddy did say that while you cannot make a sharp line with anodizing, any decent powder coat guy can do it. He also told me I can powder coat them myself in my oven at home, which I bet is right but I'm totally not gonna do.

Initial plan was to make a template to cut 60 pieces of tape of 11/16" diameter circles to mask the rivets so they aren't painted, but then when I popped the first wheel off I realized they're just held on from the reverse side with nuts, so I removed all 15 rivets from the first wheel.

They're a little dirty, slightly rusty in spots. I'm thinking of doing the trick where you put something metal in some Coca Cola and let it sit for a day and then come back and it's totally clean metal cause the acid ate away all the gunk. Thoughts on that? Something better to soak them in? Can't beat Coca Cola for an acid bath, right?
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Post by mo2872 » 02 May 2012, 23:36

First off, I don't think your rims will see the abuse you threw at the can.

Second, other than size constraints, there's no reason I can think of why you couldn't try baking on powder in your oven......why not??? Read lot's of forum threads on it. But, that is in the future!

I say, go for the paint, should hold up decent!
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Post by Bricklyn » 03 May 2012, 05:56

if your gonna use your oven, might want to relocate it to the garage or somewhere other than the house - its gonna stink from what I understood from talking to a local powder coating guy out by me when I was picking his brain.

I think I still have his info if you want it - he was reasonable in his priceing.
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