XR7-G Prototypes

There were only 619 XR7-Gs built. They were built along side the Shelby Mustang, and were available with every engine and transmission offered in 1968, (except the 427). This was the first Cougar to be a part of the Hertz Rent a Racer program. If you have any information about these rare cats, this is the place to share. The XR7-G registry is maintained by Royce Peterson.
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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by Golly-G » 28 Jun 2012, 09:02

Never knew those newspaper clippings ever existed, very,very cool. thanks.

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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by 1967 S Code » 28 Jun 2012, 13:00

propayne wrote:Last of the Smith article and an often seen photo of a Cougar that was at Smith (purportedly a styling prototype for a rear spoiler) that was donated to a local school or prison (sorry, I can't recall now and I'm too lazy to go check my notes).

This Cougar still exists.
Great pictures Philip. That photo looks like a 1967 standard but with the XR-7S / GT-E side moldings. Maybe the side moldings were part of the spoiler styling exercise??
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1967 Standard
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6.5 Litre, Black / Black, AC Whisperaire, Am/FM, Sports Console,
Front and Rear Bumper Guards, Clock

1968 XR7-G
302 4V, Lime Frost / Black Leather, AM/FM, Black Vinyl, Tilt-A-Way
Heavy Duty Suspension, Power Disc Brakes, Rader Wheels


1968 XR7-G Hertz
390 4V, Black Cherry/ Dark Red Leather, Black Vinyl, Sunroof, Tilt-A-Way,
Cruise, Rear Defrost, AC Whisperaire


1968 Convertible Conversion "Top Cat"
Standard, 302 4V, XR7G Console, XR7G Front Valance

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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by BossElim69 » 29 Jun 2012, 13:24

I'll have to make you a copy of them Jon.I got the newspaper spread from Royce as well, which put this question in my mind. On the G registry web site it states "All modification work was performed at A.O. Smith to transform the XR-7 into an XR7-G. If the XR7-G was to receive a sunroof, they were loaded back onto rail cars and shipped to American Sunroof Corporation. ASC would install the sunroof, new headliner and vinyl top before the car would finally enter Ford’s distribution system for sale or lease or in some cases rental under contract with Hertz". looks to me like the sunroof was installed at A.O smith from the newspaper clippings? Maybe a team of works from ASC was at A.O.Smith installing them on the line?
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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by propayne » 29 Jun 2012, 15:03

The story I've heard Brian is that at the start G's getting sunroofs were shipped to ASC but then it was decided it would be cheaper to install them at Smith. The needed equipment was brought to A.O. Smith and the line workers there were trained in the sunroof installation by ASC technicians.

There is humorous story told by one of the former A.O. Smith employees about the first sunroof and it going through a water test. One of the engineers decided to sit in the car during the test so he could monitor any potential leaks. After the water stopped the door opened and out came the engineer.... soaked from head to toe.

So I believe the sunroof installation was moved back to ASC.

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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by Golly-G » 29 Jun 2012, 17:39

Hahahaha, a leaking sunroof, go figure. Brian I'd appreciate if you would do that. So maybe they were installed in both places for a while. I heard stories of both, but never could confirm. Brian, do you think our buddy Joe can confirm? I talked to him one time and he did say he knew Heinz Prechter and he was sadden when he passed away. Which I think was back in 2002,

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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by BossElim69 » 06 Aug 2012, 06:39

Had the G car at the local Gilmores museum car show this last weekend. Had a gentlemen come up to me that worked at AO Smith and I spent the afternoon with him getting some neat stories and contacts that worked at AO smith. He didn't have direct responsibility for the XR7-G but was pulled in on a few issues. He work in product engineering and design and said his board was right next to Lynn Griffin who did the majority of the G work. His main work was on the 68 Shelby hood and the Pontiac T/A hoods. He also did the design and work on the 69/70 Shelby hoods. he said they didn't have a G pool car to drive and only two Shelby mustangs they could drive. He said he didn't get hardly any seat time in the Shelbys, but did get to drive a 427 Corvette home a few times.
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69 XR7 390 survivor
69 XR7 428CJ 4spd
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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by 1967 S Code » 06 Aug 2012, 07:45

Seat time in a Shelby, who would want that they are a dime a dozen cars. Give me seat time in a Ultra rare XR7G or a GTE...now that would be sweet. :thumbup: Ok...Ok I'm just joking about the Shelby's I really like them also, give me seat time and my face would disappear because my smile would be so big! :D Cool story about being able to chat with the ASC employee.
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6.5 Litre, Black / Black, AC Whisperaire, Am/FM, Sports Console,
Front and Rear Bumper Guards, Clock

1968 XR7-G
302 4V, Lime Frost / Black Leather, AM/FM, Black Vinyl, Tilt-A-Way
Heavy Duty Suspension, Power Disc Brakes, Rader Wheels


1968 XR7-G Hertz
390 4V, Black Cherry/ Dark Red Leather, Black Vinyl, Sunroof, Tilt-A-Way,
Cruise, Rear Defrost, AC Whisperaire


1968 Convertible Conversion "Top Cat"
Standard, 302 4V, XR7G Console, XR7G Front Valance

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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by Golly-G » 06 Aug 2012, 08:27

Cool Brian, do let me know if you get any inside stories, or if you can find out anymore about those dang mystical xr7-G lanyards.

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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by 1967 S Code » 06 Aug 2012, 10:03

Golly-G wrote:Cool Brian, do let me know if you get any inside stories, or if you can find out anymore about those dang mystical xr7-G lanyards.
I've got to ask, what are the "mystical XR7-G lanyards"? I've never heard or read anything about something like this.
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1967 Standard
Dan Gurney Special

6.5 Litre, Black / Black, AC Whisperaire, Am/FM, Sports Console,
Front and Rear Bumper Guards, Clock

1968 XR7-G
302 4V, Lime Frost / Black Leather, AM/FM, Black Vinyl, Tilt-A-Way
Heavy Duty Suspension, Power Disc Brakes, Rader Wheels


1968 XR7-G Hertz
390 4V, Black Cherry/ Dark Red Leather, Black Vinyl, Sunroof, Tilt-A-Way,
Cruise, Rear Defrost, AC Whisperaire


1968 Convertible Conversion "Top Cat"
Standard, 302 4V, XR7G Console, XR7G Front Valance

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Re: XR7-G Prototypes

Post by Golly-G » 06 Aug 2012, 11:19

Steven, this might be opening up a can of worms, but I'll try to explain the best I can. Brian and I have been going around and around on this subject for a while now, but not really with each other. Seems depending on who you ask there are two different reports on what type lanyards were used along with xr7-G klick pins. (hood pins) One having a swivel end on one side and the other lanyard having both sides with a flat end with maybe a 30 degree angle bent into it. (guessing?)
On Bill's site here he has two of the original blue prints from A.O.Smith. One showing a swivel end and the other showing the flat bent end. My take on it is, the one for the swivel end is for location purposes for the hood pins and they just used that style for reference and not the actual style of pin & lanyard. (The pin isn't a G pin in that print either ) The other print shows the one that looks like the one that came on my car. I also have a pic of another G with the same type of lanyard as mine.
Back when I was working I used to work with engineers a lot and they said it was sort of common practice to substitute something if it's just a reference. Well, at least they said they do it, I don't know if that's common practice everywhere. On another one of Bills blue prints it has something to do with a steering wheel, but it shows a 67 steering wheel, and once again I think it was in reference to something else. I'm trying to go by memory (oh god ) on that one, I haven't been to the blueprint page in quite a while. I have talked to the guy that owns the black xr7-G they were going to give to Dan Gurney and he said he don't remember it having a swivel end on it, but he hasn't seen that car in a few years. I did show him both kinds of lanyards and he did say he believed it to be the flat bent style. But as always it's just a tough thing to prove. If anything it's me just being a hard head.

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