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Post by akfordman » 01 Nov 2016, 09:23

Hello all,

I welcome your opinion's on the following:
Question 1: I'm trying to decide whether to use a burlwood vinyl overlay for the instrument cluster. they are in good shape, just faded, and I've tried the 'brown shoe polish' trick suggested by WCCC in some article online. The Steering wheel pad had to be replaced, used WCCC's overlay. wondering if the difference between steering wheel and faded dash will be a detraction.
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Question 2: sound deadening/insulation. I've purchased an original type underlayment kit, but that just covers the floor and trunk. what budget minded approaches do you suggest for sound deadening/insulation for doors, roof, etc. suggestions? what's been done/successful by others with the same constraints?

some pics of dash components being restored:
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Post by akfordman » 01 Nov 2016, 09:34

steering wheel: hand restored with 2 big cracks top & bottom. hand drawn plastic insert inside/outside of wheel with sliver pin-stripe accent. hand painted wood. WCCC vinyl insert.
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Post by Blitz » 01 Nov 2016, 10:16

This is a conundrum. Since you already did the steering wheel center in the burl vinyl, I'd kinda lean towards doing the same on the dash so everything matches. But I definitely understand the hesitation since it's a different wood pattern than original. We're always on the search for a better solution to this problem. One of my coworkers at WCCC mentioned that he's got something in the works, but that's an unknown right now.

I wonder what people out there have tried to bring back the richness to the faded dash pieces. Would staining work? Some kind of semi-transparent paint? Shoe polish? I dunno.

Nice job on the steering wheel and dash piece!
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-1973 Opel Manta: 1.9L, 5-speed (restored)
-1991 Mazda Miata: fun driver
-1986 Volvo 240: dependable beater / "Goldilocks"
-1992 Volvo 240 wagon: classy hauling machine

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Post by akfordman » 01 Nov 2016, 10:55

thanks. yea, if the steering wheel center piece hadn't been in such bad shape from the sun, I probably would leave all the pieces matching.
I would love to know if there have been any tricks to get that burnt-umber richness back into the faded dash panels.

Also, I'm going to do some non-destructive/reversible experimentation on using chrome-vinyl wrap on the chrome'd areas on the dash bezels. If I can get it to work and stay, it will be durable, good looking and super-inexpensive way to get the plastic-chrome restored versus the standard expensive or low-quality chrome paint options. I was waiting to hear back from someone at WCCC that had been out on vacation about their/your process, but that's been a few weeks now.

Appreciate the kind words, I guess it might seem silly to get bogged down into restoring things like he backside of the instrument cluster, but I just can't seem bring myself to put something back in the car that has surface rust or peeling paint, even though it will never been seen, nor probably even deteriorate much more in my lifetime.

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Post by R Code » 01 Nov 2016, 11:03

I would not use the overlay on the dash. I wouldn't have used it on the wheel either (although it looks nice), but that's just me.

Re: the sound deadening - I would just use the factory pieces. I know some people like to "dynamat everything", but I don't know how quiet you're going to make the car.
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Post by Al Bundy » 01 Nov 2016, 11:41

I know you asked for expert opinions, but I'm going to give you mine anyway.

I would not use the overlay that WCCC sells on a GT-E. I don't dislike it, it's just not correct.

And I would have done the same as you with the cluster housing. Just make sure you take the paint off where any electrical connections attach.
1974 Dodge Dart - daily driver
1963 Thunderbird Z code - raven black/red
1968 XR7 F code - diamond blue/blue
1968 XR7 J code - black/red
1968 J code - madras blue/aqua
1968 XR7 X code - lime frost/dark ivy gold
1968 GT-E XR7 W code prototype no. 500033 - cardinal red/black

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Post by akfordman » 01 Nov 2016, 11:57

thanks for the paint removal reminder. probably woulda debugged that for a while.
Not sure what my best option is for the steering wheel insert then.

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Post by R Code » 01 Nov 2016, 11:58

The steering wheel looks great, I'd just use it & keep my eyes open for a better solution.
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Post by Blitz » 01 Nov 2016, 14:50

Oh I didn't realize this was for a GT-E. Especially important to keep things original / correct in this case. So yeah I'd nix the vinyl idea. Once in a blue moon we get a good set of used pieces, but they go for big $. As you can see we don't have any right now, but you can click "notify me" to get an email when / if we do: http://www2.cougarpartscatalog.com/stor ... ougar.html

And the guy here who deals with the dash rechroming stuff is Cleve, he is back from his trip if you want to talk to him. Ask him about the woodgrain as well.

We do have a very nice complete original XR-7 dash in our display case (with bezels and gauges and switches and everything) but it's for an A/C car.
-Andrew Chenovick
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-1968 Mercury Cougar: original family owned, Polar White, 289-2V, auto, AC / "Snowball" view project thread
-1973 Opel Manta: 1.9L, 5-speed (restored)
-1991 Mazda Miata: fun driver
-1986 Volvo 240: dependable beater / "Goldilocks"
-1992 Volvo 240 wagon: classy hauling machine

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Post by Yorgle » 02 Nov 2016, 15:51

I've been meaning to give this a try on my dash: http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/sta ... -gel-stain. It's supposed to work on non-porous surfaces. I think even a light coat would freshen up the look while keeping the original grain texture intact. If I get up the nerve to do it, I'll post the results.
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BTW, I think electronic ignition is pointless.

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