PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

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PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by pellets4fuel » 25 Jan 2018, 21:24

So I am trying to install my reconditioned rear window trim that I got from WCCC, (needed to get out from under my dash) So check out the pictures. Right at the lower curves is what I am asking about. The side/top trim meets the lower trim with the curve and both pieces have a notch to them. they are notched enough that when slid together the notch is almost exactly the width of the retainer clips. And low and behold the notch is right above one of the retainer clips. :wall: So what in the H E double hockey sticks holds the trim in at that point if it's notched and don't catch the clip? Looked it up in the assembly manual, and it don't show any thing special. HELP........
Finding out also that installing these reconditioned trims are not for the faint at heart either. Not sure if it's how they got taken off the donor cars, or heat causing warping on the polishing wheel, or any other factors, but they take some massaging and tweaking to get them to set in nice and meet the window gasket.
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by BossElim69 » 26 Jan 2018, 06:44

I can't make out for sure how you have it in your pictures. The trim coming down the side of the window glass fits over the bottom trim that curves up to that joint. This will allow water to run over the joint vs running into the joint and getting under the trim. You should have a clip on both sides of that joint to hold it tight. Sometimes you need to install new clips + some of the repo gaskets are thicker and harder to get the trim to snap over them.
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by pellets4fuel » 26 Jan 2018, 07:08

I have it the way you say with the side piece over the top of the curve. There is only one clip in that location, right at the joint. Brand new clips were put on all around the window opening at the locations where the pins were. PS and DS is the same. Wondering if the curves are installed wrong, but they were sent to me that way from WCCC.
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by Yorgle » 26 Jan 2018, 09:06

It's been a while since I've had a roof on my car, but I seem to recall that situation having to do with how far into the window opening the trim is pushed. The opening gets smaller the further inward the trim sits and that obviously affects where the clips meet the trim, however, based on your pics, it seems like you need a lot more movement than what I'm talking about. Were any of your clip pins re-welded in? Perhaps in the wrong place? I suppose you could cut the pins and reweld them in lower or higher to fit your trim.
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by pellets4fuel » 26 Jan 2018, 10:17

I did not move any of the pins. To the best of my knowledge they are the ones that came on the car from the factory. One pin ended up braking off when the window guys installed trim clips prior to glass, and that was on front window. There is no way even if trim could go in further that it would catch this clip. Trim is shaped totally different in the two spots on the two pieces where they overlap. And if it required two clips, one on each side of joint (which I'm not saying it may not) why the notch? And why is it falling right above a clip?
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by Yorgle » 26 Jan 2018, 10:32

I wonder if it's a year-specific thing? Maybe you have the wrong trim. Call Don at WCCC- the guys there should be able to help.
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by pellets4fuel » 26 Jan 2018, 10:58

Yorgle, sometime we should connect, would like to see your car! I'm just by Waupun, so not but an hour or less drive.

Got a note into Don. Will see what he comes back with. Gonna go out and check if perhaps the curve pieces could be switched from one side to another and still fit the body opening, thinking no though. They came pre-attached to the longer straight portion with a splice clip pinched on the back side. My PS piece actually has a gap where the two pieces meet (short curve and longer bottom) don't know how I am gonna close that up so it looks like DS with it all pinched together already with that little splice plate on the back of the joint.
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by BossElim69 » 26 Jan 2018, 11:21

I have the rear window out of my 67 right now. I'll look at it tonight to refresh my memory on the pin locations and how the trim fits. The shorter trim goes on top and the longer trim on the bottom.
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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by Don Rush » 26 Jan 2018, 11:26

Over the years I have seen the nail heads that anchor the clips broken off, rusted away, missing from the factory, misaligned and once in awhile extras in place! That is why we carry this product...

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Re: PLEASE WHAT AM I MISSING rear window trim

Post by pellets4fuel » 26 Jan 2018, 11:52

Thanks BossElim69!
Ok I get it that the pins can come off, and I could be missing two on each side (4 total) or the ones that are there are in the wrong place. Why do the two trim pieces when they come together need a notch like my picture shows in that location then, and isn't it a little more than "interesting" that this notch on my car at least falls directly in line with where one of my clips is, and it is the same on both sides. So what we are possibly saying here then is 4 pins possibly broke off (two on each side) or the two that are there are wrong and that's why my trim may not go on, oh and BTW the factory just happened to put an extra pin in this location on both sides of the car by this nice notch area in the trim, and this notch area really wouldn't need to be there for fitment.
Sorry if I seem to have "tude" about it, (not trying to):), but before I except that the answer is I must remove my glass to install 4 of those repair pins so this all works, I would rather see what some other cars look like. Don do you have any cars in the yard with the trim off that you could perhaps take a look at and check out the pin count in that area. You should even have some used trim or cores and see how it fits up then.
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