After searching for 15 years for my childhood '69 Cougar, I'm this close to buying - looking for assistance in pricing..

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Post by cj750 » 24 Sep 2018, 09:36

swoop1156 wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 08:50

Crazy informative post, thank you! Regarding the spacing of the rear spoiler, that's wild. So that would mean it was installed after the fact? I used all morning at work to be able to spot the difference in a Windsor vs. Cleveland, as well as spotting a 428, just in case. You never know.
Yes, not a '69 Cougar rear spoiler. The ones used on Cougars in '69 have a pedestal spacing of 31". The ones used on Mustangs, Mopars and the '70 Eliminator have a spacing of 36". '69 Eliminator spoilers are not reproduced, and are difficult item to come by these days. So its very very rare for a clone or tribute car to have the correct '69 spoiler installed. In fact I can't think of any, but there are probably one or two out there.
The difference is readily apparent, once you know to look for it:





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Post by 1969eliminator » 24 Sep 2018, 10:52

Adam, good story. I'm one of those guys who re-bought his original '69 Eliminator 35 years after selling it. And, paid "nostalgic" value instead of "market" value!! The seller knew this and had me (and my wife). But now I have it again, totally restored it to near perfect factory condition and don't regret at all that I bought it and paid too much for it. All this too say, be prepared to pay more for it than it may be really worth; it's worth more to YOU than the real market!!
You can read my whole story here ... https://harrya.webs.com
Good luck, and I say, DO IT!!
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Post by swoop1156 » 25 Sep 2018, 15:25

cj750 wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 09:36
swoop1156 wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 08:50

Crazy informative post, thank you! Regarding the spacing of the rear spoiler, that's wild. So that would mean it was installed after the fact? I used all morning at work to be able to spot the difference in a Windsor vs. Cleveland, as well as spotting a 428, just in case. You never know.
Yes, not a '69 Cougar rear spoiler. The ones used on Cougars in '69 have a pedestal spacing of 31". The ones used on Mustangs, Mopars and the '70 Eliminator have a spacing of 36". '69 Eliminator spoilers are not reproduced, and are difficult item to come by these days. So its very very rare for a clone or tribute car to have the correct '69 spoiler installed. In fact I can't think of any, but there are probably one or two out there.
The difference is readily apparent, once you know to look for it:





Let us know when you have new information from the seller.
That's awesome, learn something new every day. Thanks for the insight as to this. Still no news from the owner, still also has not answered his phone nor responded on FB.
1969eliminator wrote:
24 Sep 2018, 10:52
Adam, good story. I'm one of those guys who re-bought his original '69 Eliminator 35 years after selling it. And, paid "nostalgic" value instead of "market" value!! The seller knew this and had me (and my wife). But now I have it again, totally restored it to near perfect factory condition and don't regret at all that I bought it and paid too much for it. All this too say, be prepared to pay more for it than it may be really worth; it's worth more to YOU than the real market!!
You can read my whole story here ... https://harrya.webs.com
Good luck, and I say, DO IT!!
That's incredible! I went to the website and oogled over all of the pictures. Heck of a story, man! Thanks for sharing!

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Post by swoop1156 » 11 Oct 2018, 08:03

Update:

The guy read and responded to my inquiry for pictures and other detailed information, but has yet to deliver. He said he'd get with me two weekends ago and still nothing.

I scoured through my archive of pictures and have found only ONE picture of the engine bay, and I can't really tell. Sure enough though, my buddy Paul and I think it's indeed the/a 351W, looks like it has A/C.

Any other opinions/facts?

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Thanks again for dealing with me.

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Post by Don Rush » 11 Oct 2018, 13:17

I say let the guy know you are interested but looking at other options. Its not like it is really rare or bought by you new. If you took the $ it would take to purchase it and the $25k it would take to make it really nice again you might surprise yourself on what you will find if you just lurk on the sidelines for a few months. I found my original 1968 Cougar bashed hard in the nose along side the road years ago and HAD to buy it back because of nostalgia. In the end it just made no sense to pile big money into a wrecked, rusted 68 std 2V so I scrapped it and over the years each 67-8 that had some meaning to me got some little part off of it.

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Post by swoop1156 » 12 Jan 2020, 14:08

Good afternoon everyone, it's been quite some time! I've finally met with the owner and have laid eyes on the Cougar. She's a bit rougher than when she was mine as a teenager/young man, but she's solid. The odometer reads 26,000 miles and I believe it. In my first post I speculated how much it could have had, but it not even that!

I'll be keeping the Mustang, that's an easy call.

Now, the headliner is rough and is being held together by a stick from the backyard. The trunk opens and stays propped up by itself. The inside is likely mint - just dirty. Dash/radio/buttons/knobs work. Headlights hi/low work as well as the vacuum system for the front. Brake lights/tail/seq turns work.

There's some minor rust here and there, but the underside is dry, clean, and solid. The 351 has a different 4bbl carb on it that needs to be rebuilt and the video he sent to me of it running is loud - likely lifters needing some oil. It's been sitting for years and years. But she fired up and ran and idled.

Regardless - I've been trying to do as much research as I can on it, regarding the condition and miles.

He's asking $7,000. I personally think that's pretty fair. Am I outta whack? Looking to you all, the experts. WCCC and John's Classic Cougars are about to get a bunch of my money. Sitting here thinking about a resto-mod, but gotta get the thing first.

Is $7k a good deal?

Thanks once again, everyone!

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Post by gregar » 12 Jan 2020, 14:37

I don’t feel like at 7k you’re taking a lot of risk if there’s no rust damage. I just (over)paid 6k for a 67 C code with no paint and no interior. Surely that makes sound yours like a good deal haha.

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Post by CATHOUSE » 12 Jan 2020, 18:46

7K is probably not too bad a deal, of course less is better for you as the buyer. One thing to verify before commiting to a deal is that the seller has whatever legal paperwork is required by your state for you to become the next legal owner. If the paperwork is good I would say show up with a truck, trailer and 6K in hundred dollar bills. Time to make a deal. Let us know how it works out. Good luck.

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Post by mainmansam » 13 Jan 2020, 06:24

It’s early morning here and maybe I’m missing something here but what would be the chances the drivers door has been replaced in the past? I’d ask the owner to send a pic of the VIN tag on the dash to verify in fact it is an H code car. . You never know. The door tag number would work great in a game of Liars Poker

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Post by swoop1156 » 13 Jan 2020, 09:21

gregar wrote:
12 Jan 2020, 14:37
I don’t feel like at 7k you’re taking a lot of risk if there’s no rust damage. I just (over)paid 6k for a 67 C code with no paint and no interior. Surely that makes sound yours like a good deal haha.
Thank you for your insight on the cost. It sounds good to me; it's just so disheartening that it's gone the way it did, I really need to get over how perfect it was previously and just realize it needs work. I'm by no means an automotive expert, and I wish I had more pictures of her current state for you all.
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12 Jan 2020, 18:46
7K is probably not too bad a deal, of course less is better for you as the buyer. One thing to verify before commiting to a deal is that the seller has whatever legal paperwork is required by your state for you to become the next legal owner. If the paperwork is good I would say show up with a truck, trailer and 6K in hundred dollar bills. Time to make a deal. Let us know how it works out. Good luck.

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Thankfully the car is only about 15 minutes from where I have my Mustang in storage (crazy how that happens, right?) and the current owner says he'll deliver. I do need to ask him about the title and make sure it's good to go for being signed off, and now that I think about it, during all my searching and conversations and stuff - I think I remember hearing "it was never titled after it was sold", so yeah - maybe the guy we sold it to is still technically the "current" owner... Good question to ask, thanks for the reminder!
mainmansam wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 06:24
It’s early morning here and maybe I’m missing something here but what would be the chances the drivers door has been replaced in the past? I’d ask the owner to send a pic of the VIN tag on the dash to verify in fact it is an H code car. . You never know. The door tag number would work great in a game of Liars Poker
The VIN on the door does match the tag on the dash, I do know that. I verified that when I got to see the Cougar, just didn't take a picture of it. It's the same VIN I registered over a decade ago. She's indeed a plain-jane H-code with A/C.

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