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Starter replacement

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Post by 69XRRR7 » 04 Jan 2018, 21:29

The starter on the 69 is about shot I believe. When trying to start it, it cranks for a sec and then sounds like the starter just spins and the engine does not turn. It has gotten worse over the past few months and I think the gear teeth on the starter are shot. I have not pulled it out and checked yet. I do not think the solenoid is bad.I have several options and am looking for some feedback.
1. Get a re-manufactured one from the local parts store
2. Summit high-torque mini starter (SUM-829302)
3. Powermaster PowerMax OEM style starter (PWM-9162)
4. Call WCCC - I don't see any starters in their online catalog.
Looking to see if anyone has any of the above listed and how they like/dislike theirs. I am not sure how many teeth are on the flexplate, it should be stock. Does the 157-/164 tooth flexplate take the same starter?
It is a 69 351W, 4V, Auto, A/C, long tube headers
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Re: Starter replacement

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Post by DeadStang » 04 Jan 2018, 22:53

How about:

5. Take your starter to your local electric shop and just have them rebuild it?

It will fit and be as good as new...that's what I always do nowadays -- my local shop is https://heielectric.com/information/about/ I would guess you have something similar in your neck of the woods.

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Re: Starter replacement

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Post by wish » 05 Jan 2018, 07:31

Actually kicking out like that is usually a weak spring on the drive gear. Dad always called it a bendix, but in the books it was the starter drive gear or something to that effect. Anyway you pull the nose off of the starter and replace just that bit and put it back. That would replace the gear teeth on the starter as well.

Looks like Advance has it as a Starter Drive under part number SD239.

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Re: Starter replacement

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Post by Midlife » 05 Jan 2018, 07:44

Before replacing or repairing the starter, I would investigate whether your flexplate or flywheel teeth are still intact. Your symptoms match nearly exactly what occurs when the teeth get worn.

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Re: Starter replacement

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Post by legendarylimeaz » 06 Jan 2018, 07:49

I had the same problem with my 69, the teeth on the drive were shot, I replaced the starter with a NAPA rebuilt and it worked fine, I did replace the flex plate when I rebuilt the motor about a year later as the teeth on it were also pretty worn.
The NAPA rebuilt is still working great 4 years later
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Re: Starter replacement

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Post by 69XRRR7 » 06 Jan 2018, 21:25

So today I took the starter out. The drive teeth look good. I found a local place that can rebuild the starter, so I will take it there next week and have them go through it and make it new again. I assumed it was the original starter, but the part number on the starter looks like it came out of a 72. The starter number is D2AF-11131-CA with a 10B under that. I have pics but can't them uploaded on here. I am going to look at all the teeth on the flexplate tomorrow. I removed the fan and a couple of spark plugs to make it easier to rotate the engine. Good time to clean everything up underneath too since I have it up on jack stands.
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Re: Starter replacement

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Post by 69XRRR7 » 12 Jan 2018, 19:23

Got the starter rebuilt and all painted up. I can't wait to get it installed back in the car this weekend. Guy at the shop said it had a bad "clutch" he called it, which is the spring drive gear as mentioned above. I need to hear that kitty purr and growl again.
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Re: Starter replacement

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Post by 69XRRR7 » 14 Jan 2018, 16:11

Starter is in and fired right up. Cycled it 6 or 7 times and starts like it is supposed to. I am happy again!
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