Disaster. No joke.

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Post by Gyrhead » 04 Sep 2017, 13:32

1967 S Code wrote:
03 Sep 2017, 14:23
While we are on this topic a quality fire extinguishers is a must for all homes. In the home I always recommend a multi purpose ABC extinguisher, 5lb minimum. For shop use I recommend a 10lb. Co2 extinguisher at a minimum. My Fire Department offers fire extinguisher training as part of our Fire Prevention Program. Check with your local Fire Department and see if they do the same.The time to learn how to properly use a fire extinguisher is not when a fire event is happening. I've literally had people say "the extinguisher did work when they pulled the pin and threw it at the fire". Remember the acronym "PASS" point, aim, squeeze and sweep. Start 8-10 feet from the Fire and aim for the base of what is burning using a sweeping motion. Keep in mind a fire extinguisher is good only for the incipient phase (beginning stage) of fire. If you're in doubt get out. A life or burns are not worth a possession that is usually insured and can be replaced.

Back to extinguishers. A co2 extinguisher is rated for class B and C fires, energized electrical and flammable liquids. These are the two main items that we deal with in our cars. A CO2 extinguisher is also a clean agent compared to a dry chemical (powder) extinguisher. The Co2 kills two of the three things that Fire needs to live. It removes the heat and displaces oxygen. Another plus to using the Co2 is if you can extinguish your fire quickly you will have less clean up during repairs. Just my thoughts and experiences I figured I'd share them.

Steven
Steven,

Three 10 pound class B/C extinguishers purchased and installed strategically around the shop today. And, provided my wife and 2 sons with a lesson on the "PASS" method detailed above.

A valuable lesson learned, hopefully for us all. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
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Post by anthem75 » 05 Sep 2017, 00:07

I nearly burned up my '69 XR7 when I tried to remove a lug breaker from under the dash without disconnecting the battery first. My experience was nowhere near as terrifying as yours, but i can say with confidence that I certainly felt like a fool afterward. I appreciate you sharing such a valuable lesson with us and I too, am very happy that your family is safe.

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Post by Gyrhead » 05 Sep 2017, 05:36

DieselD wrote:
03 Sep 2017, 10:47
I had a similar experience in the garage but it involved welding. There was a bucket of waste oil/gasoline combo stashed under the workbench that I was welding I. Top off. Of course you can imagine my suprise when it practically blew up sending flaming oil all over myself and the garage! Luckily I was able to get it out with fire extinguishers which of course made an even bigger mess but that was nothing compared to what it could have been.

I think sometimes we become very relaxed when it comes to dealing flammable liquids and vehicles. I know I am guilty of it myself too. All it takes is one spark and you have a fire. I have to remind myself to be careful when working around gasoline again as typically I'm accustomed to diesel fuel which is a lot harder to spark.
From time to time, we've all probably had an open bucket of "miscellaneous " fluids laying around the shop - here's a reminder that this is a bad idea! Glad it worked out ok!
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Post by mo2872 » 05 Sep 2017, 08:40

Since we're all in confession mode......thought I had torched my shop/Cougar a few years ago while cutting sheet steel with a grinder/cutoff wheel....I didn't notice the open box of Estes rocket motors(about 30 or so) I was conveniently showering with sparks.....until they started lighting off.....panic mode, tossed a towel over them and did the crazy dance, stomping and smothering. It's scary how big those flames can get so quickly......

Glad you are all safe.
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Post by Don Rush » 05 Sep 2017, 10:07

"Didn't sleep a wink last night, just kept seeing the event over & over in my mind."

Wow thank you for sharing as others here could easily make that mistake. I had a car get away from me coming off a trailer at the exact time my 4 yr old appeared once, another time involved target practicing with a .22 in my back yard with my children. You will never forget those moments and 20 years from now you will still cringe at times but if you can steer someone else from from making the same mistake it is important to share. SO VERY glad you and your family are OK. Count your Blessing! I am going to turn all my fire extinguishers upside down today and swat them with a rubber mallet as well as install a few more...

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Post by BossElim69 » 05 Sep 2017, 10:52

Whew, dodged a bullet on that one :( could have been much worst. I've had a few big engine fires, but at work in test cells and not at home. We have CO2 systems installed to put them out. Basically have a big nozzle that dumps in each cell. Once the system is tripped you have a ear piercing alarm which forces you out of the area. Then 30 seconds later the system dumps and takes away all the oxygen to put out the fire. If it still senses heat it has a second system that will dump. $5,000 each time one system dumps. Makes for an exciting day as you clear 200 people out of the building and have to wait for the fire dept to give the all clear before anyone can return to the building. One thing nice about the system is no messy clean up afterwards except for the fire damage.
They make fuel injector rated rubber hose. I still wouldn't trust that especially using hose clamps. Should be all hard plumbed with a flexible JIC fitted hose to the engine. Whats more scary is the direct fuel injection systems that operate at 2,200 psi.. now that's a blow tourch. You could take your fire and X it by 100.

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Post by Cougars_R_Grr8 » 05 Sep 2017, 17:16

Sounds like Halon 1101
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Post by 1967 S Code » 05 Sep 2017, 18:45

Gyrhead wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 13:32
Steven,

Three 10 pound class B/C extinguishers purchased and installed strategically around the shop today. And, provided my wife and 2 sons with a lesson on the "PASS" method detailed above.

A valuable lesson learned, hopefully for us all. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
You're welcome. It's really no problem at all. Sharing fire safety tips helps everyone so I'm glad to help in that respect.
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Post by Gyrhead » 09 Sep 2017, 18:09

Adjuster from Hagerty has evaluated the car, and we are moving forward with repairs.

A good cleaning proved very therapeutic- raised my spirit a lot. Tomorrow the motor and trans come out. Truthfully, this could have been a LOT worse.

Thanks for all the public and behind the scenes support folks. Means a lot!
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1970 Torino Cobra J-Code 429CJ Shaker 4 Speed -1 of 22 black/red
2016 Mustang GT350 Chassis #2710
1988 Mustang 5.0 LX Coupe
2002 Porsche 911 3.6 Carrera
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Post by G68 » 10 Sep 2017, 15:15

1967 S Code wrote:
03 Sep 2017, 14:23
While we are on this topic a quality fire extinguishers is a must for all homes. In the home I always recommend a multi purpose ABC extinguisher, 5lb minimum. For shop use I recommend a 10lb. Co2 extinguisher at a minimum. My Fire Department offers fire extinguisher training as part of our Fire Prevention Program. Check with your local Fire Department and see if they do the same.The time to learn how to properly use a fire extinguisher is not when a fire event is happening. I've literally had people say "the extinguisher did work when they pulled the pin and threw it at the fire". Remember the acronym "PASS" point, aim, squeeze and sweep. Start 8-10 feet from the Fire and aim for the base of what is burning using a sweeping motion. Keep in mind a fire extinguisher is good only for the incipient phase (beginning stage) of fire. If you're in doubt get out. A life or burns are not worth a possession that is usually insured and can be replaced.

Back to extinguishers. A co2 extinguisher is rated for class B and C fires, energized electrical and flammable liquids. These are the two main items that we deal with in our cars. A CO2 extinguisher is also a clean agent compared to a dry chemical (powder) extinguisher. The Co2 kills two of the three things that Fire needs to live. It removes the heat and displaces oxygen. Another plus to using the Co2 is if you can extinguish your fire quickly you will have less clean up during repairs. Just my thoughts and experiences I figured I'd share them.

Steven
Great advice Steven!
I just went in the kitchen to check the extinguisher. It's really small (2.5 lb), and I couldn't tell you how old it is. Not only that, but it's in the pantry and I had to "look for it". It was actually in sight and easy reach, but we should all know EXACTLY where they are in case of a fire!
I keep a HalGuard extinguisher in the Cougar and have a Battery Disconnect Switch to kill the power to the car EVERY time I park it in the garage. Looking on Amazon now to upgrade my Kitchen extinguisher, AND add one to the garage!
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