How many 1969 SCJ cougars were built?

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Re: How many 1969 SCJ cougars were built?

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Post by Mike_B_SVT » 01 Mar 2019, 21:52

CATHOUSE wrote:
28 Feb 2019, 22:25
Perhaps the difference is because one is an R code and the other is a Q code?

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SuperCJcat wrote:
01 Mar 2019, 14:09
I’m thinking it may be a difference between 4speed and autos. They are both for a 65A body. That’s the one thing about the Marti reports. It doesn’t necessarily break down to total production, but breakdown of similar options based of that specific car.
That is not how the STATISTICS box on a Deluxe Marti Report is supposed to work. Those lines are meant to be taken seperately and applied to the specific model at the bottom of the box...

STATISTICS
Your car is one of:
xxx With these Engine/Transmission Codes
For the 1969 Cougar Hardtop.

This "Engine/Transmission Codes" line takes into account the specific engine and transmission in these cars ~ Q vs R and 4-speed vs Auto.

xxx With 428SCJ Engine- Drag Pack after 2/20
For the 1969 Cougar Hardtop.

This line pretty much says that the SCJ number is supposed to be associated with ALL 1969 Cougar Hardtops, no matter if they are R or Q, 4-speed or Auto.

Even If you look at each of those lines as being related (which they are not supposed to be), that gives us 206 R-code / 4-speeds... and 132 of those were SCJs? That seems an unlikely ratio. The other report shows 87 Q-code / Automatics... and 229 of them were SCJs? My math may not be great, but that just doesn't add up.

Unfortunately, I think that Mr. Marti probably DID have something else factored in to one or both of those SCJ numbers by mistake.
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Re: How many 1969 SCJ cougars were built?

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Post by SuperCJcat » 02 Mar 2019, 06:38

Mike_B_SVT wrote:
01 Mar 2019, 21:52
Even If you look at each of those lines as being related (which they are not supposed to be), that gives us 206 R-code / 4-speeds... and 132 of those were SCJs? That seems an unlikely ratio. The other report shows 87 Q-code / Automatics... and 229 of them were SCJs? My math may not be great, but that just doesn't add up.

Unfortunately, I think that Mr. Marti probably DID have something else factored in to one or both of those SCJ numbers by mistake.
I totally agree with the math not adding up. I don’t think those numbers are accurate. By what your saying that each line is just based of the 1969 Cougar hardtop, the SCJ number should be the same on both reports, regardless of ram air/transmission.

I remember the previous thread about the 68 CJ 4:30 4speed car, and the owner was not happy because his report would not breakdown how many 4:30/4speed cars were produced throughout total production but was limited to cars that were the similar color. (I believe). That’s why I was leaning toward those SCJ numbers being related to some other statistic not listed, or just could be a mistake.

No disrespect to Mr Marti, he does a great job!
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Re: How many 1969 SCJ cougars were built?

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Post by Mike_B_SVT » 02 Mar 2019, 20:54

SuperCJcat wrote:
02 Mar 2019, 06:38
That’s why I was leaning toward those SCJ numbers being related to some other statistic not listed, or just could be a mistake.

No disrespect to Mr Marti, he does a great job!
I'm with you - no disrespect to Mr. Marti - he can't reasonably be expected to keep 50 years of Fords and all the make / model info straight all of the time. I think it was probably a mistake, or even a change in the way he filtered the data. Notice the date on the Q-code report is from 2004, while the R-code report is from 2010.

Really though, this is the sort of information that could be determined relatively easily by requesting (and paying for) some simple research. I've always wanted to request some of this obscure data, but there always seems to be something else to spend the money on. I have a hungry SCJ that requires care and feeding, LOL!
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Re: How many 1969 SCJ cougars were built?

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Post by SeaninSD » 03 Mar 2019, 23:56

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Re: How many 1969 SCJ cougars were built?

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Post by Mike_B_SVT » 04 Mar 2019, 16:17

Best two out of three... So we are possibly very likely looking at 229 SCJ hardtops in '69.
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