Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by berns68 » 07 Apr 2013, 08:38

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If you are talking about the dash pad mounting bracket, when I had mine apart last winter the passenger side bottom mounting bracket bolt also was completely torn out from the pad. I used 3M black weatherstrip adhesive to mount it back into the pad and used a very generous amount of it. It worked quite well so I'd assume it would work on the upper mounting bracket too.

As for the speedo cable, you have to reinstall the wiring harnesses to the instrument cluster then move it very close to the dash and then you can reinstall the cable nut being very careful to not over tighten it.
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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by tmh » 07 Apr 2013, 10:19

Not the dash pad but the dash itself. Not sure if mine it all weird or anything, but it's two pieces, the driver's side with the instrument cluster and then the passenger side with the toggle switches and oil pressure gauge. Driver's side is held in with a bunch of screws mostly along the top and then two at the bottom under the speedo and tach. Passenger side is held in with a big metal bracket that goes across the entire top of it that was originally attached with glue and now with nothing (that bracket screws in across the top in like 5 or 6 or so places) and then also all along the bottom has threaded areas molded into the plastic back of the dash where it would get attached by screws that you could access from below/behind the dash, but every one of them is cracked off. Hence the thinking I might wanna just install some Velcro.
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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by tmh » 07 Apr 2013, 10:20

About the speedo cable, it wasn't even finger tight when I removed it. Just turned several rotations, enough to hold it in place I guess. That sound good?
'68 XR-7 J-Code C4, San Jose, Edelbrock 1406, PS, Front PDB, 8" rear 3.0, PS is leaky and sloppy, invisible fan shroud
'79 Bronco XLT 351m, C6, Edelbrock Performer 400 intake, Holley 6140, Howards cam, 4" suspension lift, 33x12.5x15 Duratracs, dana44 front and Ford 9" rear both 4.11 LSD, Warn hub locks, invisible fan shroud
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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by Art » 07 Apr 2013, 14:06

I've always been able to work a hand in behind the dash and disconnect the speedometer cable, if it's too tight, pull the cable out of the transmission and the clip, work some slack behind the dash, reconnect then put everything back. Connecting the speedometer cable can be challenging for sure!
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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by tmh » 07 Apr 2013, 15:40

Art when you say behind the dash, do you mean with the dash already unscrewed and pulled out just a bit, putting your hand behind the already disconnected dash, or do you mean with it still screwed in place? I could not for the life of me get an angle to do it with the dash screwed in place. If there is a trick please share!

Here is a pic of my removed dash elements, you can see where the metal strip for the passenger side has broken free from the glue and also where all the molded threaded areas where it should mount at the bottom are broken off.

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And the front view

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Overall plenty good condition, other than the passenger side mounting issues
'68 XR-7 J-Code C4, San Jose, Edelbrock 1406, PS, Front PDB, 8" rear 3.0, PS is leaky and sloppy, invisible fan shroud
'79 Bronco XLT 351m, C6, Edelbrock Performer 400 intake, Holley 6140, Howards cam, 4" suspension lift, 33x12.5x15 Duratracs, dana44 front and Ford 9" rear both 4.11 LSD, Warn hub locks, invisible fan shroud
'80 Suzuki GS750E 16V DOHC, looks about 6 months old
'13 Honda CR-V AWD

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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by tmh » 07 Apr 2013, 15:41

Actually it's not so easy to see that the lower passenger side threaded areas are all broken. But they definitely are.
'68 XR-7 J-Code C4, San Jose, Edelbrock 1406, PS, Front PDB, 8" rear 3.0, PS is leaky and sloppy, invisible fan shroud
'79 Bronco XLT 351m, C6, Edelbrock Performer 400 intake, Holley 6140, Howards cam, 4" suspension lift, 33x12.5x15 Duratracs, dana44 front and Ford 9" rear both 4.11 LSD, Warn hub locks, invisible fan shroud
'80 Suzuki GS750E 16V DOHC, looks about 6 months old
'13 Honda CR-V AWD

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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by CatsRock » 07 Apr 2013, 16:18

I'm not sure about the speedo cable on your year cat, but on my 73 it rotates easily, to remove you have push the tabs on the side to get it to release, definitely an exercise in patience and body contortion as is everything under the dash behind the cluster :smoke:
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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by Al Bundy » 07 Apr 2013, 18:31

Art means the dash has to be unscrewed and pulled forward a bit to get to the speedo cable. Somebody definitely screwed around with your passenger side dash. That metal bracket is some kind of homemade job. Looks like the dash bezel was heated up to so the bracket would attach to it. Personally I would replace it with one that's stock.
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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by berns68 » 07 Apr 2013, 18:39

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Ok yours is an XR7, mine is a standard. But it appears that the plastic welds broke free from the mounting bracket. This seems to present a challenge. I've had some pretty good success with Loctite Epoxy cement. That 44 year old plastic is brittle and takes some patience working with it. Hopefully someone else on this board had the same issue and will have a solution that worked for them.
Mike

1968 Standard Hardtop, Nordic Blue
302 F code, updated to 4V
Originally 1 of 2
ROTM May 2014
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Re: Hello all; the TMH Chicago Cat project

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Post by tmh » 07 Apr 2013, 18:47

The bracket isn't stock?! Wow that's a really fancy piece of work. So the passenger dash panel isn't supposed to screw into the dash pad like the driver's side does?

I looked on the WCCC site and couldn't find a new or old one. Wood grain no problem, but the actual dash, couldn't find it. I have a feeling it would cost way more than I'm in a position to spend. Seeing the pricing of the dash and interior parts there makes me want to sell mine! :D

I think it looks great when installed. I just want to make sure it's held in place securely. Here like in the past, I'm not really concerned with stock or concours correct at all. Form and function, yes. But that's where my concern ends. So that's where Velcro is currently the lead option for me.

And thanks for all the input on the speedo process. Good to hear that the way I did it was the way it's done!
'68 XR-7 J-Code C4, San Jose, Edelbrock 1406, PS, Front PDB, 8" rear 3.0, PS is leaky and sloppy, invisible fan shroud
'79 Bronco XLT 351m, C6, Edelbrock Performer 400 intake, Holley 6140, Howards cam, 4" suspension lift, 33x12.5x15 Duratracs, dana44 front and Ford 9" rear both 4.11 LSD, Warn hub locks, invisible fan shroud
'80 Suzuki GS750E 16V DOHC, looks about 6 months old
'13 Honda CR-V AWD

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