Red GT-E - Mecum Indy - May 2018

The GT-E was only available for a few brief months in 1968. Total production would not have kept the assembly line busy for more than a half day. If you know anything about a GT-E, it is important, and this is the place to share it. The GT-E registry is maintained by Jim Pinkerton.
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Re: Red GT-E - Mecum Indy - May 2018

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Post by thunderchero » 10 Aug 2018, 08:18

Very interesting topic here.

sorry for off topic question, but how many red 68 GTE's have been listed as re bodied in registry?

@Rob I would like to see a wider view of fender apron VIN, plus images of underside of fender apron VIN.
I miss hearing my kittens roaring....

1972 Comet GT red/black interior 302 auto (1979)
1970 Cougar standard pastel blue/blue interior, (1979-81)
1970 Cougar standard competition gold/black interior (1981-1984)
1970 Cougar XR7 convertible pastel blue/blue interior w/power windows (1983-1989)
1969 Sunroof Eliminators Hertz-Rent-A-Racer (1984-1985)
1970 Cougar standard convertible competition gold/dark ginger interior (1984-1985)
1989 Capri convertible/hardtop (1989-1995)
1995 T-bird LX police interceptor 4.6 (1995-2004)
1964 Ranchero deluxe (1999-) in-progress resto-mod
2004 Mazda 3 (2004-2017)
2017 Chevy Cruize (2017-)

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Post by robert campbell » 10 Aug 2018, 09:29

I have already buttoned up the right side. I can take a pic of the underside only. I will take a wider shot of the left side as well as a close up. Can't wait to dig the vacuum canister out on the left side that runs the headlights...….

I hope that people trust me that I am photo'ing the VIN's and sheetmetal date codes of the same car. Not many W code red Cougars around here to photo...…

Rob

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Post by robert campbell » 10 Aug 2018, 15:51

All,
Here are the final photos of this GTE. I have sheetmetal date code photos of both the battery apron and the left from inner apron that have the VIN numbers as well as the left side VIN number. Enjoy. I took a "wider shot" so we can see the cars engine compartment. I thought about taking a photo of me taking the photo.... Remember this is not my car I am just a local Mustang restorer who has been into Ford since 1971.

Jim has all of these photos and wants to see it in person before he removes the re-body from its identity in the registry. Jim still has the go no go at this point.

Because of this cars checkered past we have went to detail few cars can withstand. I bet 99 percent of the cars in this registry have not had such rigorous date and VIN identification as this car. The owner, Bart Lovely wanted this to be as transparent as possible.

By the way, we have been told that the rear taillights are one off proto types.


Rob

Wide shot

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A bit closer to the drive side VIN

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The driver side VIN

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Driver side inner apron the VIN is in. February 21 1968. A bit blury but the 2 is clear for the month.

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Driver side VIN from bottom.

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Driver side coil spring cover February 29 1968

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Passenger side VIN from bottom

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Passenger side date code in battery apron. March 8 1968 still ahead of the 15 March 1968 build date of this car.

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Passenger side coil spring cover. Same as driver side February 29 1968.

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Post by robert campbell » 10 Aug 2018, 16:30

Sorry,
Battery apron is March 8 1968 not March 6. I have corrected it in the previous post. I will take a nice shot of the taillights soon.

Rob
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Post by xr7g428 » 10 Aug 2018, 17:31

Robert thank you for going to the extra effort to document this! The value of what you are doing goes beyond this car to give us a good bench mark for just how to document one of these cars. Great job!
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Post by robert campbell » 10 Aug 2018, 22:36

XR7G428,
Thank you for the kind words. I like to let the car tell the story as best it can. If you dig deep enough and look over the easy bolt on changes the car will reveal what it is. It takes time and patience to do this. I love a car that has been misjudged in the past by owners who did not do "due" diligence for its true identity. This car has been black listed due to the owners who did not go the extra mile or did not know a person who could. Buyers and owners who denied the experts on this site to look at it.

All and all it has been a fun journey to reveal the bones of this car!

The pedigrees of these rare cars are safe with the registrar and the experts on this site. All and all, all I did was provide information for the new owner who wished to be totally transparent and honest with this car.

Rob

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Post by Cougar1 » 11 Aug 2018, 09:27

thunderchero --

Sorry for the delay in answering your inquiry concerning the GT-E Registry.

The Registry doesn't list any vehicles as "rebodied" per se, even where that rebody is acknowledged and proven beyond doubt. That's not the purpose of flagging a vehicle as a possible rebody with a ? and $.

The purpose of this designation is purely for my benefit as Registrar, so that when asked by someone interested in purchasing a particular car, that he/she is informed that "some objective evidence" indicates that the car may be rebodied, so "let the buyer beware" and determine for themselves whether or not that is the fact.

However, to directly answer your question regarding red GT-Es in the Registry (flagged as possible rebodies) it is 5.
Jim
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Post by robert campbell » 11 Aug 2018, 13:31

All,
Check out these taillights! Some have said they may be a one off prototype. Out of my knowledge of Cougars!

Rob

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Post by cobrasc427 » 11 Aug 2018, 17:30

Great photos, well based upon the low VIN #, and the fantastic detailed photos. Those grills weren't made by Joe Blow in his garage. I'd say that IMHO those are factory Ford/Lincoln/Mercury pieces. My question to those who might be wiser than me, where is the paper work on these units? Where are the blue prints for the design of them? Drawings? Engineering paper work?

And please don't tell me they only made one set, aren't these exactly the same as the Henry Ford car? Who is holding on to the secret stash?

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Post by thunderchero » 11 Aug 2018, 20:33

xr7g428 wrote:
09 Aug 2018, 15:03
Many owners ago I asked if it might be possible to take one of the rear tail light bars off and look for any kind of Ford prototype markings on the back. We have seen other prototype parts that had tags that indicated that they were pre production items.
did you get a chance to take a tail lights off and look for any markings?
I miss hearing my kittens roaring....

1972 Comet GT red/black interior 302 auto (1979)
1970 Cougar standard pastel blue/blue interior, (1979-81)
1970 Cougar standard competition gold/black interior (1981-1984)
1970 Cougar XR7 convertible pastel blue/blue interior w/power windows (1983-1989)
1969 Sunroof Eliminators Hertz-Rent-A-Racer (1984-1985)
1970 Cougar standard convertible competition gold/dark ginger interior (1984-1985)
1989 Capri convertible/hardtop (1989-1995)
1995 T-bird LX police interceptor 4.6 (1995-2004)
1964 Ranchero deluxe (1999-) in-progress resto-mod
2004 Mazda 3 (2004-2017)
2017 Chevy Cruize (2017-)

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