Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by karguy12 » 01 Oct 2018, 11:42

Well it is official. This the ONLY 1968 Cougar 428 Cobra Jet 4spd Cobra Jet that came with the ultra high 4:30 traction lok drag racing rear axle ratio.

Or is it? Seems to me the report can be interpreted in dozens of ways and really doesn't say much at all. No info on how many 4:30 cards were built or how many were 4spds or autos or anything more useful than my car was one of 11 red 4spd CJ cars in the standard body. I'm feeling kind of ripped of.
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by Al Bundy » 01 Oct 2018, 12:16

That’s not how you interpret that.
1974 Dodge Dart - daily driver
1963 Thunderbird Z code - raven black/red
1968 XR7 F code - diamond blue/blue
1968 XR7 J code - black/red
1968 J code - madras blue/aqua
1968 XR7 X code - lime frost/dark ivy gold
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by CatVert68 » 01 Oct 2018, 12:31

The Marti breakdown is filtering down by option. A more accurate way to read it is that your Cougar is the only 1968 Cougar hardtop R-code, 4-speed that was painted Cardinal Red and with the Black Décor bucket seats that also has the 4.30 Traction-Loc Rear Axle. It's the full listed combination that makes it a 1 of 1.
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by karguy12 » 01 Oct 2018, 12:58

I was hoping for a less cheesy break down. One that actually has substance. I wanted to know how many 4:30 1968 cougars with the 428 were made and how many were 4spd vs auto. I let them KNOW this when I ordered the report. I don't care if it is a one of one because it has an AM radio. It seems that when you do get down to the nitty gritty on a rare Ford, these reports should not break anything down to the color of the seats.

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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by R Code » 01 Oct 2018, 14:21

Kevin has been known to conduct research on specific questions (like the one you articulated above) on request. Blasting the guy on a public forum, saying that you feel "ripped off" when you paid for information & received said information, doesn't seem like the right approach.

Have fun w/that. :thumbdown:
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by SeaninSD » 01 Oct 2018, 14:42

I think in order to get the breakdown of 1968 Standard R Codes with 3.50/3.91/4.30 and then how many were produced with auto vs manual with each axle code, you would have to order 'Research Stats' (https://www.martiauto.com/secure/stats.cfm?action=551). However, Kevin doesn't seem to be accepting requests at the moment.

I personally think the 1 of 48 produced with R code 4 speed is the selling point. Let the buyer speculate on how many had 4.30's. I'd imagine 4.30 TL would be the lowest production of the axles.

For reference, 469 Boss 302 Eliminators were built in 1970. Only 58 of them had a W code 4.30 rear end. The #'s for '69 SCJ Eliminators are still unknown AFAIK, but it's speculated to be in the high 60's.

You may be better off contacting the 68 R code Registrar (Mr Quay?) and requesting information for how many R code 4.30 std's he has in his data. That way you know how many any documented
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by karguy12 » 01 Oct 2018, 15:54

R Code wrote:
01 Oct 2018, 14:21
Kevin has been known to conduct research on specific questions (like the one you articulated above) on request. Blasting the guy on a public forum, saying that you feel "ripped off" when you paid for information & received said information, doesn't seem like the right approach.

Have fun w/that. :thumbdown:
Normally, I would agree. However, there were a total of 19 emails back and forth between myself and the Marti-report company and it was VERY clear what I was attempting to document. I paid for the information I requested and did NOT get it. If the report they were selling me would not have provided that information, then they should have said so and not taken my money and gave me something that was worthless for my stated purpose. I wanted to document how many 4:30 CJ cars there were. How many were 4spds. They HAVE the information I was looking for, but instead chose to provide me with something else. My desired information could have been provided by changing the order that they filter the records. Drivetrain first, trans second, axle third, color fourth and interior fifth. NOT color, interior and then axle.They treated a rare axle combo like wheel opening molding or deluxe seat belts.
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by PacificaXR7GT » 01 Oct 2018, 16:01

Looks like you got 2/3 of what you asked for (engine then transmission). Maybe you could get back in touch, articulate the request to move the 4.30 gears up ahead of the red paint and black buckets? Seems easy enough if they already have those stats. I hope you can get a report that meets your needs.
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by karguy12 » 01 Oct 2018, 16:06

PacificaXR7GT wrote:
01 Oct 2018, 16:01
Looks like you got 2/3 of what you asked for (engine then transmission). Maybe you could get back in touch, articulate the request to move the 4.30 gears up ahead of the red paint and black buckets? Seems easy enough if they already have those stats. I hope you can get a report that meets your needs.
Not really, because the number of engine (428) and trans (4spd) cars is already known. The only real thing this report tells me is that there were eleven of the 48 made in red. But that was NOT what I was asking to know. None of my communications ask for any info on colors. My communications were clear I wanted to document the axle ratio rarity. This report is worthless for that purpose. by filtering the axle LAST, they made the report worthless.

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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by 93RGTE » 01 Oct 2018, 18:11

With the purchase price of the car you can afford to play nice. You've already won. Mr. Marti is a good guy. Assume good will and try again.
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