Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by CATHOUSE » 13 Sep 2018, 07:58

I only know that the Sudlow car is listed in the registry. I do not know how much detailed information is there. It might start with Ms Sudlow's ownership. You would need to contact Bill Quay directly to get any other information. On the CCOA website there is a contact page, his name should be listed there and you can send him an email directly from there.

Here are a few thoughts on the first owner's racing history of your car. 50 years ago people generally did not travel very far to purchase a car. Since we the original selling dealer I would start by looking into what drag strips were within a 100 miles of them. I would bet that the car was raced at one of those strips. You also know that the second owner was Danny Stanley and where he was from. So I would look closely at strips that would be close to both of them. There is a chance that they raced at the same track.

Once you have the track names you can see if any of them are still in operation. If they are they might have old records on hand. You could also look to see if there is a local historical society for the area where a track is located, they may also have some old records. They may even know someone who raced at the track back then and put you in contact with them. Some of the tracks put out their own newsletter so there may be written history somewhere out there.

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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by karguy12 » 13 Sep 2018, 10:50

Thanks for the good advice. I'm on it!

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Post by karguy12 » 13 Sep 2018, 13:37

Someone just told me that this may have been Bud Moore's personal car. No proof, they say they remember seeing him drive it around town back in the day. Anyone else remember any such thing? Which makes me wonder, what WOULD someone like that drive for their daily transportation? I would have guessed a pick up truck.

It was documented that they gave some of their race car drivers a free Cougar so that they would be seen in the cars. It would also make sense that it would be a FAST one!
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by propayne » 13 Sep 2018, 14:40

Hmmm, that is fascinating. Bud Moore's shop built and campaigned the Trans-Am Cougars in 1967 and then took them into the NASCAR Grand American division in 1968.

Those were all road racers (and ovals) with small blocks. No reason why Bud wouldn't have liked a Cobra Jet for the street but it makes more since with Don Nicholson.

But - interesting to speculate that Mercury gave very similar Cougars to "Dyno" Don and Bud Moore in 1968.

Bud's son Greg is still around, you could reach out to him and ask. If you can't make contact easily I may have a channel to Greg.

It is well established that Gurney was offered a triple black sunroof 390 4v XR7-G that he famously turned down (he was not particularly happy with Mercury at the time).

I think he was given other Cougars to drive at various times - there are these vintage photos of him showing up to a race in one.

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Post by karguy12 » 13 Sep 2018, 15:10

I could actually see how Dan Gurney might not want to drive around in a car with his own name plastered all over it. :)


Here is the story about the Dyno Don's 428CJ gift car.
https://www.hotrod.com/articles/rare-fi ... icholsons/
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Post by propayne » 13 Sep 2018, 15:36

Yes - that is the other red with black top '68 Cobra Jet that Royce is so graciously posting about on a separate thread on this forum with lots of great photos documenting the details. Not a GT-E tho.

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Post by TomL » 13 Sep 2018, 15:50

I would think a car given to Bud Moore from L-M would not be specified as "STOCK" on the Marti report. See Royce's car Marti report.
1968 Cougar XR7 GT-E
W-code 427E
Nordic Blue / Dark Blue Leather
sold thru David Bricker L-M; Hollywood, CA

1968 Cougar XR7 6.5 Litre
S-code 390 GT
Nordic Blue / Dark Blue Vinyl

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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by karguy12 » 13 Sep 2018, 15:55

TomL wrote:
13 Sep 2018, 15:50
I would think a car given to Bud Moore from L-M would not be specified as "STOCK" on the Marti report. See Royce's car Marti report.
I agree. I am just putting out there what people are telling me to see if there is any knowledge out there in this very experienced crowd. Is there any definitive proof that the car from that article actually was Don's personal car?

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Post by karguy12 » 13 Sep 2018, 18:42

One of the race cars....
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Re: Found R-Code 1968 Cougar Today

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Post by CATHOUSE » 13 Sep 2018, 20:10

karguy12 wrote:
13 Sep 2018, 13:37
Someone just told me that this may have been Bud Moore's personal car. No proof, they say they remember seeing him drive it around town back in the day.
I learned a long time ago to never say never however in the case of this being Bud Moore's car originally I would highly doubt it. I say this because if Mercury did give him a car I would think that the car would have been shipped either to the closest L-M dealer to him or perhaps it might even have been sent directly to his shop. It's not like Ford was not already shipping other vehicles to his shop. So why would they make him travel to Ohio to pick the car up? Bud Moore may very well have had a Cougar as a driver, I just doubt that it was (for ID purposes) what we will now call the Sudlow car.

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