Free LED headlights for three lucky people.

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Re: Free LED headlights for three lucky people.

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Post by xr7g428 » 26 Jul 2018, 22:43

I get that guys want to enter, help me figure out how to not end up with 3 winners and every body else unhappy. And all that will be needed is front end shots with a decent grille.
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Post by leonbray » 26 Jul 2018, 23:00

I hate halo headlights and LED's don't perform as well as halogens. - I might be the first one to request that you don't include me in the draw
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Post by Yorgle » 27 Jul 2018, 05:56

Program a random number generator to come up with a random vin for each year. Whoever has a vin closest to it wins.
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Post by JETEXAS » 27 Jul 2018, 06:51

Everyone who enters gets to use the headlights for one month, then you have to send them to the next guy on the list. Lol

Maybe hold a photo contest where everyone has to emulate one of the required photos with their current headlights, then choose from those entries.
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Post by CatVert68 » 27 Jul 2018, 07:06

In terms of entry qualifiers, it sounds like each entrant would need to meet the following criteria (in addition to model year):

1. Car in condition to take a glamour shot of the front end (which likely means some hood and fender exposure)
2. Willing and able to install the lights and submit pictures within two weeks (my sense of reasonable time frame) of receiving lights

IMHO there needs to be a specific agreement on what is a reasonable time frame since folks can have very elastic definitions of that.

It's unlikely that you'll be able to develop a selection method that will please everyone, but some eligibility rules would address the "insider" issue for those that have that concern. Examples could include excluding former or current CCOA officers, CCC.com administrators and moderators, current registrars, etc. I personally don't care if one of those folks wins but it would eliminate most of the people that could be considered insiders. You'll need to decide if that concern is important enough to disqualify folks who would otherwise like to participate.

The drawing could simply be to have each qualified entrant submit the VIN of the car they are entering and pull the winning VIN from a hat. That makes it easy to group entrants according to application. People need to trust that the process will be fair and random but I can't really see anyone seriously thinking that you (Bill B.) or Jay wouldn't conduct a fair drawing.
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Re: Free LED headlights for three lucky people.

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Post by bmwhd1 » 27 Jul 2018, 09:33

leonbray wrote:
26 Jul 2018, 23:00
I hate halo headlights and LED's don't perform as well as halogens. - I might be the first one to request that you don't include me in the draw
Umm...not sure what LED's you've been looking at but the hierarchy of top end automotive lighting is now clearly LED > HID > halogen. Of course all of that is subject to correct reflector and lens design. No telling what these have in that regard.

I like the idea of everyone that meets the criteria of car year, car condition, and willingness to do the work should go into a random draw.
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Post by fordnutz » 27 Jul 2018, 10:01

I think the easiest/most fair way to go is to draw names/VINs from a hat for each model year range. I don't think there is anyone on this forum that doesn't trust you to do a legitimate drawing, at least none I am aware of. If the draw is done in an above board manner then there should not be any exclusion of past club volunteers. Most club volunteers do not get enough recognition and swag for their efforts and they should not be excluded because of that.
I do think that their should be an installation time frame and condition of car. The company donating these want to have them installed and functioning with pictures in hand so they can use them for promotional purposes. I'm sure they have some ideas on when they need to go to press with the completed kits. They will also want to see them being promoted on cars that look like they are in good usable shape, not on a car that can not turn a wheel under it's own power, or has no completion time before the deadline (whatever that will be).
This modification is probably not going to be done on a concours car, but I would think their market is going to be resto-mods, occasional drivers, and daily drivers looking for a safety upgrade.
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Post by xr7g428 » 27 Jul 2018, 10:40

You guys have some really great ideas. Thanks! I think many of you will see your suggestions reflected in this.

Here is what I am coming up with:

I will start a thread for each set/generation. In the first post I will spell out the required shot list and the time frame and the requirement that your grill looks better than a broken fence. The shot list will be pretty specific so you won't have to do a bunch of re-shoots. To enter all you have to do is verify that the email address you used for the site is current so we can contact you, and then put "I Agree" in a post in that thread.

There will be a start date, when I post the threads, and an end date. One entry per person. Once all the entries are in I will number the entry posts in each thread. The first entry will be number 1 second entry number 2 and so on.

I will use the random number generator posted above and record the screen while I do it and then post the video to show it the results. I might be able to do it live on Youtube if I can figure that one out.

I will disqualify Jay and myself (we are the only two people that have any form of moderator administrator capability) from the contest. I don't think it is fair to disqualify any one else, fair is fair. I brought up the insider thing and I am sensitive to the "optics". If I take one of my cars to a show I only put it in the "Display Only" class because, right or wrong, I do have undue influence through the forums and the magazine. However, I think about how much fun I have had at CCOA events like Dearborn and it doesn't seem fair that we exclude the people who worked so hard to put those events on. At best they have an equal chance of winning. So there will be a chance that an insider might win, but no better chance than any one else. I can be persuaded if some one can make the case or sees something I am missing.

What do you folks think? I am sure that I have left something out.
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Re: Free LED headlights for three lucky people.

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Post by Mike_B_SVT » 27 Jul 2018, 10:49

xr7g428 wrote:
26 Jul 2018, 22:43
I get that guys want to enter, help me figure out how to not end up with 3 winners and every body else unhappy. And all that will be needed is front end shots with a decent grille.
Hmm... Perhaps something similar to the WCCC Giveaway cars a few years back?

Each entrant provides a write up and "justification" as to why their car should be considered for the LED Headlight conversion? Entrants could submit a few example pics of their grille, and describe how they would put the LED Headlight kit to good use, etc. Start a contest thread for each year category ~ entrants post in the thread they want to compete in (many folks have multiple cars).

For judging, you could send the entries back to NPD for them to decide, or at least give some feedback on.

Alternatively, if there are LOTS of entries, you could post them as a poll for forum members to vote on to whittle down to the top 3 or so in each category (although I recall that gave us some uneven results in a past, where folks were having their friends sign up just to vote).

Sure, this option is more "labor intensive", but I think it would make for a more balanced contest where entrants are more invested - and interested - beyond a simple luck-of-the-draw. Also, it would be really cool if we could actually get some feedback from NPD - if they choose the winners then how could anyone justify complaining?
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Re: Free LED headlights for three lucky people.

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Post by Mike_B_SVT » 27 Jul 2018, 11:02

Also... I was looking on the NPD site and it looks like there are 2 styles of Halo LED kits: single color and multi-color. I imagine the kits are the single color? Would be good to know exactly what is being given away so we can figure out the best method of converting our wiring harnesses in advance.

https://www.npdlink.com/product/bulb-se ... gle/185222
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